AI's real question isn't whether AGI arrives

Jun 6, 2026

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hmad Al-Dahle has been at the center of some of the biggest technology and societal shifts of the past two decades. He helped develop the early iPhone at Apple, spearheaded the open-source Llama models at Meta to help decentralize AI power and influence, and now serves as CTO of Airbnb, where he's using AI to help people spend more time in the real world.

In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sat down with Ahmad to discuss Airbnb's vision for AI, why he believes AGI is coming, how AI agents are revolutionizing executive workflows, and why technology should ultimately help people spend less time with technology and more time having human experiences.

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Topics covered include:

  • Why Ahmad left Apple after over 15 years
  • How Airbnb is using AI to reimagine travel and drive more meaningful connections
  • The future of open-source AI and the impact of Llama
  • Why Ahmad believes AGI is inevitable and what comes next
  • How AI agents are transforming leadership and productivity
  • Lessons from working with Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, and Brian Chesky

If you're a leader, AI builder, entrepreneur, investor, or anyone trying to understand where AI is headed beyond the hype, you don't want to miss this episode. Ahmad's insights on AGI, open models, AI agents, and the future of human connection make this one of the most thoughtful discussions we've had on the show.

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